Erynn999 by Ben

December 2009

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Erynn999 by Ben

PCon so far

I'm currently in [info]blackfyr and [info]lysana's room, hanging out with [info]ogam. We've been plotting a ritual to give to the community as a sort of CR equivalent of a symbel, where people can get together and make offerings to the land spirits, the ancestors and the deities as a basis around which groups might be able to coalesce. We'll be running it by [info]alfrecht tomorrow as soon as we run him down -- assuming he comes back to the con hotel before he heads home.

My feeling for quite some time has been that part of the reason that CR groups tend to flail around and not do that much publicly or to become very large is because everyone is having to reinvent the wheel ritually whenever they get together. Rather that proposing a large, intricate ritual, we wanted to put something together that you can do alone or with a group as small or as large as you like and work out from there.

My ogam workshop this morning was nearly standing room only. I sold all the copies of my ogam booklet that were printed (30 of them), and could probably have sold 20 more over the past day or so. People were very excited by what I had to say, and I felt like I did a pretty good job with it. Tomorrow afternoon is my filidecht workshop, though it's so late in the day that most of the congoers will be gone by the time 1:30 rolls around.

I participated in the Ecclesia Antinoi lupercalia, and was declared "youth for a day" and am now officially a Luperca. Way cool. More about this stuff later.

Talked to Isaac Bonewits and it turned out he was dining with the acquisitions editor and the publicist from Llewellyn, who immediate pounced upon me and were desperate for me to write for them. I gently turned them down, explaining that a CR 101 would probably work for their audience, but I'd promised my ogam book to Megalithica, and that really, a book on filidecht would deal with the search for illumination that results in one of three things -- poetry, madness or DEATH -- and that honest, I didn't think their target market was quite ready for that.

Been doing a lot of networking and ritual, and have met some great folks, as well as seeing people I haven't seen since last PCon. I'm definitely looking forward to coming back next year. Gwethelyn came by, and we had a late dinner together after the Brighid ritual (they didn't fix the twitches that made me so nuts last year), though Tadgh was not able to come. She passed along his greetings.

More reportage to come, though most likely either late Monday or sometime Tuesday.

Fabulous things are happening. Huge hugs to everyone and lots of enthusiastic love. I'm missing reading my flist and looking forward to catching up with you all in a few days.

WHEEE!

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I'm glad you got to see Gweth! If you run into her again, please give her my apologies for not returning her last email; real life interrupted. ave more fun, and I can't wait until next gaming when you can catch me up on all of it.
If I make it to gaming tomorrow despite exhaustion, I'll catch you up.
Fab stuff :D I've been thinking about you! Hope the rest goes as well, I'm sure it will!
We've been plotting a ritual to give to the community as a sort of CR equivalent of a symbel, where people can get together and make offerings to the land spirits, the ancestors and the deities as a basis around which groups might be able to coalesce.

That sounds interesting, and I'm sure that many people would find it useful. I'm biased, of course, since closeness to and communion with the land is such a big part of my (tree hugging) take on religion. [grin] Are you going to publish your suggested structure for this? Is there some divination beforehand? (I've run into places where the local land spirits were all GO HOME GET LOST, and didn't want me trying to make friends or give them anything.) There is tons of precedent in the Heroic Cycle and in the Dindsenchas about how people began to relate to places -- I know I've used it as inspiration when trying to work Celtic-centered ritual in new or different places. I look forward to anything else you have to say about this.

poetry, madness or DEATH -- and that honest, I didn't think their target market was quite ready for that.

[laughs] Somehow, I imagine they'd find that hard to argue with.
Hadn't considered the divination beforehand, mostly because I've never tried to do ritual where the landspirits didn't want me around, or were at least not annoyed with/indifferent to me. We have a structure and are working on a rough script for parts of it. [info]alfrecht said that fled would be the proper word for what we're discussing, so there's a feast involved (naturally).

I suspect more will happen once I'm un-crispy.
Maybe you're just more popular than me. [grin] I do think this is an astonishingly good idea, obvious in retrospect, but go y'all for thinking of it, particularly since a) everyone on [info]cr_r has been asking for ritual frameworks and the like, and b) no one else managed to think of this.

Rest well, and go go beta!
Actually, I think it's more like I've generally not felt like doing ritual in places that felt in the least bit hostile or uncomfortable. That probably avoids a lot of those problems from the outset. But yeah, divination beforehand is probably a good idea.

Though, with a feast, you'd most likely be doing it either in your home or in a place you're pretty familiar with, and the spirits would be fairly familiar with or even well-disposed toward you.
Otherwise you end up with strange red dudes showing up, and the roof falling in, and all kinds of weird crap. [giggling]
Ain't that always just what happens?
a traditional ceilidh - where people just sit around a fire telling stories, instead of the grand ceilidhs where there is dancing and music, etc - always seemed very sumble like to me. And you can have anywhere from a few to a couple of dozen handy for it, easy.

I've done traditional, norse sumbles for our very eclectic pagan community the past four years for Yule, with one twist - instead of restricting the honoring of the gods to just the Norse pantheon, we allowed people to toast to "The gods their tribe swears by."

The Asatruar who attended the sumble last year, didn't like that, btw, and didn't participate in that round. But - we've done it that way for four years, and so far the Norse gods didn't seem to mind. As long as we gave them their just due, they were cool with it.

Poetry, Madness or Death

Funny you should mention that. A friend of mine, whose grandparents were from Ireland and whom he said, were followers of the "Old ways," said when he was 7 (?) - they offered him a choice of three drinks - one would make him wise, one would make him mad, and one would kill him. One looked innoculous, the other two looked varing degrees of horrid. He had to utilize all they had taught him to choose.

As he is a wise man, I assume he chose correctly, although at times I could swear he chose the one that made him mad.

Re: Poetry, Madness or Death

I've heard of this too. And although the source from which I heard it, a few years ago, struck me as not particularly reliable, the idea itself seemed very interesting. I think it may have been in reference to the life of the early Irish poet Suibhne (Sweeny) the Mad, but I'd have to look it up.

Re: Poetry, Madness or Death

out of curiosity, I journeyed and spoke with his grandmother (who had long passed) and asked her what brew she used. She answered henbane, which I only knew (from the name) was poisionous, and looked up later- it can indeed cause madness and death. I don't know if it was what she used as well for wisdom, in homeopathic dosage, or something else.

I had expected it to be a mushroom. Sometimes we get answers we don't expect. Was my journey accurate? ::shrugs:: I dunno, but I'm not about to test it out.

Re: Poetry, Madness or Death

Henbane was most likely used, though I'm not sure it was ingested. Harner wrote a book called Hallucinogens and Shamanism and talked about the use of henbane in Europe. You might consider checking into it, at least in terms of history of usage.
Wow! this is so great! Yeah you!
Glad to hear things are going so well! Congrats on the workshop turnout.
Firstly, I want to say that your talk on Filidecht this afternoon ROCKED!!! I so enjoyed what you shared with us all, and though it is not my own path, I left the room with a deeper understanding (and respect) for the work that you and others do.

Secondly, as one of those Heathens from across the river, and one who serves Freyr, our god of Frith, I would be extremely interested in helping out in any way possible with the development of the symbel ritual - that is, if the help is welcome.

Thank you so much for all that you do :)
Thanks for your comments. You rocked pretty well yourself ;)

I'd love to hear further comments from you about the workshop and your thoughts on the whole thing. It would really help for how I present the material once I finally get to working on the book about it.
I'm glad your workshop went well! Congrats on selling all your books! See ya when you get back!
Hi! It was great to meet you, however briefly, at the Con. I really did enjoy your (not attempting to spell it) poetry lecture on Monday. While I'm Asatru, I really enjoyed seeing the things you emphasized--that this stuff is dangerous; it's a lifestyle; that, in that culture, the role of "professional madwoman" was a clearly defined and respected role--and how these ideas easily carried over to my trad, and the trance and godswork I've been doing. Hearing you speak also reawakened my "Get back into nature, already!" yearning, which, despite the fact that I work closely with the Vanir, is still one of the things I find relatively lacking in my trad.

Anyway, it was great to hear you speak, and despite your protestations, you expressed yourself in a very clear and (for me at least) easy to understand manner. And I, like [info]trogula, am totally willing to help you all figure out a Celtic "sumbel". You have, I assume, heard Bonewitz' take on that whole modular ritual design thing? (Should I duck here?) ;)
Oh, thank the Gods I made sense! I was still operating on not nearly enough caffiene for that late in the con. I'm very glad that you found things in it that you could take away and work with in your own path. Getting outside and away from all the human civilization crap is so damned important on so many levels, and I think it's one of the things that too much of the Pagan community forgets about in favor of the flashy bling. You don't have to be a homesteader, but you do need to get outside and stay there for a few days every so often to really connect.

*sporks Isaac* I have opinions on his one size fits all ritual idea. [info]alfrecht looked at our outline and said what we had here was a fled or "feast" (as in the story of Fled Bricrend), so that works really well for me. I'm hoping we'll have a beta version for the community in a week or two.
Cool about the fled! I can't wait to hear about it :)
You were an amazing lupercus! And what a god, who can turn back the years like that :D
Yay for Gods of youth! Ave Antinous Oengus!

The rug burn is finally going away. I was able to wear pants and not cringe when they rubbed on my knee yesterday ;)